A quick word from Frank…

 

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I hate my neighbors. The constant cacophony of stupidity that pours from their apartment is absolutely soul-crushing. It doesn’t matter how politely I ask them to practice some common courtesy – they’re incapable of comprehending that their actions affect other people. They have a complete lack of consideration for anyone else, and an overly developed sense of entitlement. They have no decency, no concern, no shame. – Frank

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106 Responses to A quick word from Frank…

  1. Dystopian Chan says:

    You are living in a giant mental institution with a casino in the centre. Psychopaths understand only carrots and sticks. Nothing else will work on them.

  2. Buck says:

    This is not exactly the right thread (sorry Dudley), but having just gotten off a long haul flight, I want to say something about mainlanders who fly. What the fuck is up with those morons? First, the check in counter: these goons barge in and make queues of their own. What was a single queue now doves off into two queues Then, if there is chaos at an immigration counter, you can be sure a buzz cut, broken-toothed, cigarette stinking, Gucci-covered mainlander will be in the thick of it. Next comes duty free shopping. A family of mainlanders, spread across 100 metres, somehow still manage to carry out a conversation with each other. Thanks guys. I really need that noisy shit. Then, god help us, boarding time. Why on earth do these goons queue up before boarding calls are made? They really want to be first on board for a 12 hour flight? Then, once on the plane, we have the “spinners”: the mainlanders standing in the isle of the plane, holding everyone up, because they are unable to figure out where their seat is. And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these uncivilized fools sitting behind you, be prepared for your seat to be yanked back every time they stand up. Finally, after 12 hours flying,…the plane lands. Those mainlanders cant wait to bounce out of their seat (before the fasten seat belt sign is turned off) and stand up in the isle……for 15 minutes. Why? Why? Why?
    Selfish, boorish cunts.
    Nuff said.

  3. Buck says:

    You wrote it much better than me, Dudley. It’s comforting to know that I’m not the only uncomfortable one.
    Back to the topic of neighbours. Having had a guts full of always having noisy cunts living above me for the past two decades, I finally moved into the top floor (level 10). On level 9 (below me, obviously) I hear the faint noise of a piano well after 11pm. It doesn’t bother me at all, but thank God I’m not “the one living underneath the piano” anymore. But just to offer some suport to the good tenants on level 8, I have taken up indoor basketball. I’ve got my kids interested in it too. Fuck it feels good. Really, really good.
    I’m a cunt? Yeah. HK has made me like this.

  4. It was an ok post. Seemed funnier then.

    20 years. Long time Buck.

  5. Buck says:

    My first two years here were fantastic. Amazing. Years three to five were very good. Years six to ten were good. Years eleven to fifteen were just “meh”. Years sixteen to now have been hell. It’s the mainlanders. At first they were just a few tourists. Then they became a flood of tourists. Now they are your colleagues, your neighbors, your waiter, your dentist, your doctor. They are in the malls, in your kids’ schools, in your face. They dont just shop amongst us, they live amongst us.

    HK people are laughable. They are pussies. They are a joke that I can shrug off. But mainlanders are a different story altogether.

  6. Ah right yeah. It’s out of control.

  7. Anonymous says:

    in a few years time, there will be more Mainlanders than locals living here.

  8. Cat's Eye says:

    Hong Kongers may think they’re light years ahead of Mainlanders, but they’re really not. Yes, they are “pussies” but sometimes that’s even more frightening than the boorish Mainlanders. And, sadly, I’ve witnessed plenty of Westerners who I would put in the same categories. Maybe they were always this way or maybe they became this way living here. I complain, but I know there’s an end in sight for me. Others who complain and live here decade after decade I don’t understand, maybe they truly have no choice.

    I’m trying really, really, hard to not reduce myself to either level. I would like to leave Hong Kong with my sanity and my values intact, but it’s becoming more difficult.

    We have a piano upstairs and have been up there to complain. Third time we threatened legal action and it’s gotten much better. And, door slammers. Never live in a walk up again.

  9. Buck says:

    You are kind of right about “no choice”, Cat’s Eye. In my job I need to have an International flavour on my CV, and hence I have worked in many countries prior to HK. But unfortunately I’ve been in HK so long that I’m now considered “local’ by the global employment market in my industry. I’m tarred with the HK brush. I’m locked in. My only hope now is to save enough HKDs to retire early, and then get out.

    That said, everything is a choice.

  10. Clar says:

    I m only here for 1 year n breaking down. Ur blog n reading others comments helps with my sanity. U should do 1 on dog food served in restaurants e.g. Spam, instant noodles shit

  11. Anonymous says:

    My neighbours are constantly slamming their doors. My wife and I asked the building management to talk with them on several different occasions. Not only did the not stop, they now slam their doors even louder. If the did the same thing where I’m from, they’d get punched out right quick.

    Chinese people are savages with no souls! It is way too safe in Hong Kong, so safe that you can destroy a person’s sanity for the fuck of it. Chinese people are fuckers! I long for the day these fuckers get what’s coming to them.

  12. Cat's Eye says:

    Anonymous — I went to building management and I was informed that no one had ever made a complaint before. So, therefore, my complaint didn’t count. However, he freely admitted that it is a huge problem in HK – door slamming. But, since my complaint didn’t count he wouldn’t put a notice in everyone’s mailbox asking people to be more polite. I suspect if I was an owner and Chinese things would have turned out differently.

    We recently received a notice stating that we all needed to be more “neighborly” and not have our children run around in the flat and annoy other tenants/owners. I went to management and asked if this notice applied to the owners directly above us. He said yes, but “not possible” that their children were running around and most likely jumping off their parent’s bed until 11pm at night. This was due to the fact that they were nearing university age. I asked him if he was stating that I was a liar and he said no. I asked him to go upstairs and tell the parents, children, helper, ghosts, whomever the hell was running around at night above our heads to stop.

    Did it stop, has it stopped? No. However, when we threatened legal action with regard to the extremely loud piano playing that did help. 🙂

  13. Dystopian Chan says:

    Cat’s Eye says:
    October 17, 2017 at 8:15 pm
    “Anonymous — I went to building management and I was informed that no one had ever made a complaint before. So, therefore, my complaint didn’t count. However, he freely admitted that it is a huge problem in HK – door slamming. But, since my complaint didn’t count he wouldn’t put a notice in everyone’s mailbox asking people to be more polite. I suspect if I was an owner and Chinese things would have turned out differently.”
    The building management only wanted you to go away and stop bothering them. People here spend 90% of their time fighting among themselves and kicking the can down the road instead of getting things done. No one fucking cares about anything or anyone except themselves.

  14. Anonymous says:

    There are only 2 instances when those pieces of shit would and will stop being complete assholes:

    1. If you’re Chinese and own the entire fucking building.

    2. You have close connections with the HK triads and ask THEM to give the motherfuckers in question a ‘polite’ warning.

    Other than that, you can forget anything else that it won’t get through to them. Especially if you’re white.

    Buck says:
    July 14, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    ‘But unfortunately I’ve been in HK so long that I’m now considered “local’ by the global employment market in my industry. I’m tarred with the HK brush. I’m locked in.’

    Yup! I saw that coming… and before all the doors were shut due to the fact that I was ‘overstaying’ in this shithole, I got the fuck out. Just a little warning to the jolly newcomers, seduced by the bullshit buzz of this city, your CV in HK is worth less than dog shit in the West. So, if you have fallen for the fucking ‘high life’ bullshit, you better make shitloads of money before you wake the fuck up. LISTEN TO BUCK!

  15. Anonymous says:

    Buck says:
    July 8, 2017 at 12:09 am
    ‘My first two years here were fantastic. Amazing. Years three to five were very good. Years six to ten were good. Years eleven to fifteen were just “meh”. Years sixteen to now have been hell. It’s the mainlanders. At first they were just a few tourists. Then they became a flood of tourists. Now they are your colleagues, your neighbors, your waiter, your dentist, your doctor. They are in the malls, in your kids’ schools, in your face. They dont just shop amongst us, they live amongst us.

    HK people are laughable. They are pussies. They are a joke that I can shrug off. But mainlanders are a different story altogether.’

    Obviously you went to Hong Kong before the Handover, or just thereabouts. It was a quieter place back then. I was in HK for a brief period just before the Handover, and I remember it was a much better place. Having said that, I really find it difficult to sift through the shit Chinese ‘Hongkonger’ and the shit Chinese ‘Mainlander’. to me they’re all shit from the same pile (including those assholes from places like Yuen Long, who claim to be ‘natives’). I agree that the mainlanders contributed to stir the shit, but all in all they’re a huge pile of turds altogether. I tend to give mainlanders the ‘benefit of the doubt’ because they are as raw as pig freshly carved, but in terms of cruelty, brutality, selfishness, arrogance, shit-headed and stupidity hongkongers have a lot more to answer for than the grotesque mainlanders. The whole shit stirred together have spiralled completely out of control.

  16. Skyhigh says:

    Buck says:
    July 8, 2017 at 12:09 am
    “My first two years here were fantastic. Amazing. Years three to five were very good. Years six to ten were good. Years eleven to fifteen were just “meh”. Years sixteen to now have been hell. It’s the mainlanders. At first they were just a few tourists. Then they became a flood of tourists. Now they are your colleagues, your neighbors, your waiter, your dentist, your doctor. They are in the malls, in your kids’ schools, in your face. They dont just shop amongst us, they live amongst us.

    HK people are laughable. They are pussies. They are a joke that I can shrug off. But mainlanders are a different story altogether.”

    Unfortunately HK is not the US, and there is no Donald Trump here to build a wall between HK and the mainland. I wonder how will the Americans react if so many aliens become their colleagues, neighbors, waiter, dentist and doctor, just like the situation in HK?

  17. Anonymous says:

    What do you suggest HK to do to be better?

  18. Cat's Eye says:

    1) Stop teaching HK children by rote learning
    2) Encourage individual thinking, not herd mentality
    3) Bring mental health issues to the forefront, reduce the stigma
    4) Break down the image of suicide being taboo and something not to be discussed
    5) Construct buildings with insulation and soundproofing. Double glazed windows are great, but that only solves a portion of the problem
    6) Construct buildings with central air. No more dripping air con units, geckos getting into the exterior split type unit and frying the wiring, no unsightly air con units
    7) Change the culture of just about everyone being on the take (bribes) and greed
    8) It seems to be slowly changing, but not fast enough. HK/China/Asia are killing off many species, polluting waterways and air, stop throwing trash on the ground thinking a cleaner will be right behind them. Reduce noise pollution, light pollution, too.
    9) In general: more respect for the environment, respect for other people (especially neighbors since most of us live on top of each other), less discrimination especially with regard to the helpers (maybe people here could actually do things for themselves)?
    10) Outlaw pianos and other loud musical instruments in buildings unless they are in soundproof rooms.

    However, at the end of the day, I have to remind myself that this is not my permanent home and my expectations are not necessarily shared by others. Different cultures make things in the world unique even if I find them to be repulsive, annoying and even immoral or illegal (even by HK standards).

  19. 2047 says:

    Cat’s Eye,

    There is no cure for psychopathy. You can’t change cold-blooded animals to warm-blooded–that’s physically and physiologically impossible. The only thing you can hope for is that United States and China go to war within the next 20 or 30 years and Hong Kong and Taiwan are ceded to the United States. That’s the best hope for Hong Kong.

  20. Buck says:

    If we could outlaw selfishness, it would solve many of the city’s ills

  21. Buck says:

    We can all site examples of selfishness in Hong Kong, just as the locals in this forum can find examples of selfishness in western countries. But I want to site an example that is very “close to home”:

    Every morning I take my kids down to the school bus stop. It’s not a loading bay, it’s not a car park. It is clearly labeled as a “bus stop”. But every morning, at exactly the same time as the school bus is due to arrive, a Hong Kong guy parks his car in the bus stop and sits there waiting for his wife to come downstairs. As a result, the school bus has to double-park (every single morning), and the kids (some as young as 5 years old) have to go to the middle of the busy highway to get on the bus. There is a very, very real danger that the bus is going to be shunted by a moving car one day. I dread to think of the consequences.

    I’ve written to the school (asking them to reroute to another bus stop), talked to the bus driver and bus mum, written to the PTA, called the police on multiple occasions. Nothing works. When the police come, he goes round the block and comes back. Now, you may ask, why not just go and talk to the offending driver? I’ve tried many times, and in classic Hong Kong fashion, he winds up his window and stares straight ahead, stone faced.

    This guy wears a nice suit, drives a nice car. He is not a “bottom-dweller” socioeconomically. Doubtless he is a manager of sorts, may be even looked up to in his workplace and respected by his subordinates. This is the worrying part!!!! He is not an anomaly. He is a TYPICAL middle class Hong Konger. But this guy, in my books, is nothing short of a child abuser.

    I know, it just might be possible that this type of case exits in western countries too. But I must say: the selfishness, the underlying laziness, the lack of awareness or empathy for others, and the “look straight ahead and ignore the warnings”, is classic Hong Kong.

  22. Tony M says:

    Wow. That is appalling. Film it and put it online and give us a link, let’s all get this viral.

  23. Anonymous says:

    So glad this site is back on track. The other post and with its comments turned into a disaster!

    My wife and I witnessed a Chinese man yelling at a security guard for simply asking him if he could move his car up a little so other cars could get by. This Chinese piece of shit went off over a simple request. It happened right down stairs in our estate.

    Buck, you do know if that man parked in front of the bus stop was non-Chinese, he’d get in trouble straight away. It’s amazing what these Chinese can get away with, and the worst part about it is there are no consequences for their sick behavior. They can get away with practically anything. This is why Hong Kong is such a bad place to live – we have to take it from these fuckers who have no decency whatsoever. They aren’t human I often think.

  24. 2047 says:

    How to deal with a psychopath:
    -Don’t. 1) Run. 2) Are you sure you can’t run?
    -Accept that some people are just bad news: A tiger is not a good house pet. And you will not change that fact.
    -Pay attention to actions, not words: No excuses. No BS. Use the “Rule of Threes.”
    -Build your reputation and relationships: You need a good defense and good advice.
    -Win-win agreements: Make it easier to go through you than to destroy you.
    http://observer.com/2016/11/this-is-how-to-deal-with-psychopaths-and-toxic-people-five-proven-secrets/

  25. HK Small Penis Island says:

    They are the most hopeless society in the world. They can’t even pick up with the technology at work. Oh sure they know whatsapp, but any new tech coming and they just refuse to adapt. As long as mister manager doesn’t tell them to do it, they will never take the initiative. Just lay low and shut up!

  26. Anonymous says:

    Buck says:
    December 5, 2017 at 11:34 pm

    ‘I know, it just might be possible that this type of case exits in western countries too. But I must say: the selfishness, the underlying laziness, the lack of awareness or empathy for others, and the “look straight ahead and ignore the warnings”, is classic Hong Kong.’

    I can tell you right away, this type of case simply does not exist in the UK. Especially when the lives of children could be at risk! Even if a piece of shit decided to do that in the same fashion of this monumental piece of Chinese crap, he or she would certainly face prosecution (whether by the police or community wardens). It’s plain simple, people in the UK are not angels, but they DO have a lot of sense of decency when it comes to safeguarding vulnerable people, otherwise they will end up with a criminal record up their arses… and if they re-offend they’re done! Also, this Chinese asshole would and could get a fucking good ole beating and get his fucking car burned (at best) in some Western countries should the justice system for some reason fail. FACT! Safeguarding children is taken extremely seriously in most Western countries.

  27. Anonymous says:

    This was my point a few posts up…

    If this fuck head was a non-Chinese person, he would get in trouble straight away. Either by the police or concerned citizens. But because he is Chinese and this is Hong Kong, he gets a pass. This is precisely why living among these people is so horrible. They can pretty much do whatever they want and get away with it. They know this and exploit it to the fullest. They are worse than shit.

    Also, if he was a non-Chinese person, you would see how quick other concerned parents would jump on him (like Buck). This is a perfect example of a double standard at work, or should I say RACISM. In my mind, wrong is wrong! In Hong Kong though, it doesn’t really work this way.

  28. Cat's Eye says:

    Anonymous & Buck — I wasn’t a witness to this accident and I don’t think the person telling me was, but supposedly it happened recently in DB: child leaving school, in the crossing area right outside the school and maybe not paying as much attention as he/she should. Think it was a bus that hit the child, but no serious injury(?)…police determined it was the child’s fault.

  29. Buck says:

    As we know, pedestrian crossings (and orange lights for that matter) mean nothing in HK.

  30. Anonymous says:

    Cat’s Eye,

    The bus driver must of been one hundred percent Chinese. Can you imagine what would have happened to that bus driver if he was a non Chinese person (regardless if there was no serious injury to the little boy).

  31. Anonymous says:

    Fuck the Chinese, fuck Hong Kong and fuck the corrupt Hong Kong police.

  32. Anonymous says:

    Of course it was the child’s fault. The child was ‘illegally’ not paying attention, crossing on a fucking irrelevant pedestrian crossing, in front of a school, which means fuck all, and hit a vulnerable fucking ‘professional’ bus driver… driving a vulnerable 17 ton bus. That’s the logic of the sick HK police, and the sick Chinese ppl in general. Now the parents of the said child should pay compensation for damages to the fucking vulnerable bus driver, who will be traumatised for life.

  33. Buck says:

    I’m sure the bus driver walked onto an ambulance….

  34. Fatima Hogwhistle says:

    The bus driver probably received a free welcome drink from the police too. If you are not rich and don’t own an exotic expensive sports car, you’re fucked. The pigs are corrupt cowards, and we just have to live with it.

  35. Brainless says:

    What’s the point in living without Watsapp and Pokemon go?

  36. Buck says:

    good point!

  37. Buck says:

    Speaking of whatsapp, my colleagues have all these whatsapp groups, for work stuff. And if you don’t participate in the conversations (which go into the small hours) then your absence is noted (well not mine. I’m the boss. But I feel sorry for the office juniors). I deleted the app. Fuck them.

    They keep talking about “giving 130% to the company” and “adding oil”. i.e being seen at a desk, but in reality doing fuck all. They are so psychologically messed up, these HKers.

  38. Anonymous says:

    If you are easily upset, dont watch this (seriously. It’s graphic). And if you’re Chinese, well, this wont upset you http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4584000/Woman-hit-taxi-r

  39. Anonymous says:

    Fucking hell! How can a society like this have a place in the world? I cannot even begin to describe the horrors that the Chinese society represent. This is just the tip of the iceberg by the way, it gets a lot worse than this.

    Buck, I absolutely fucking hate this typical Hong Kong expression, ‘add oil’.

  40. Watsapp me says:

    Fuck me I just got up to level 19! My highest score ever!
    Er, hold on a second, erm,,sounds like my grandmother is having a heart attack in the other room.
    Ah fuck it, Watsapp me your highest scores too.
    I’m going for the big 20.

  41. Dystopian Chan says:

    Thousands in Guangdong watch as 10 people sentenced to death in sport stadium–then eight are immediately executed

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thirteen-chinese-drug-dealers-sentenced-10705921

    are they having a party?

  42. Anonymous says:

    you know the Chinese: work hard play hard!

  43. Watsapp me says:

    Guy’s whatsapp me, cause I have just got to level 22! Seriously level 22!. Whatsapp me your scores! Yay play hard! Go go go, whatsapp me!

  44. Buck says:

    Today I was walking along the street playing Candy Crush and suddenly WHAM some red-faced angry Gwielo bangs into me, sends me hurtling into the bushes. He didn’t apologise or anything. He couldn’t see I was playing Candy crush? Selfish Gwielo!

  45. Watsapp me says:

    During Candy Crush? What a Selfish Gwielo! Down, down , down with Selfish Gwielo! Up.up.up with Candy Crush!, and Pokeman. Yey, whoooop, whoooop, whooooop, I’m sooooo close to level 23!!!!! Whatapp me your scores guys! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Yeah!

  46. Watsapp me says:

    Diu Nei Lo Mo guys, wotsuppp me your scores! Seriously, please wutsepp me, before I die! WATTSUPPE ME GUYS, COME ON!!!!!

  47. Cat's Eye says:

    Why do the Chinese call and not leave a message?

    They either keep calling or don’t call back. If it’s a number I don’t recognize I won’t necessarily answer. Am I supposed to guess who has called and guess what the call is about? I noticed that I had received four calls from the same number so I decided to call back. Turned out it was about a scheduled delivery (from a large multinational company who needs to train their people better) so good thing I did call. When I asked why no one had bothered to leave a message there was no response.

    At least that’s been my experience over the years here.

  48. Cat's Eye says:

    Where is Dudley? There must be other topics he hasn’t addressed yet.

  49. Cat's Eye says:

    Have a Merry/Happy Christmas everyone.

  50. Buck says:

    I just don’t pick up my cell phone. No sound, no vibration. Period. I don’t pick up my office phone either. Management by walking about. The number of times I get an elevator pitch from a Chinese telemarketer, I just gave up picking up.

    But what really bothers me is if your kid is missing (does happen), or you’re waiting for a hospital report call, so you’re anxiously waiting for THOSE calls, but it’s just some guy selling annual Disney membership blah blah.

  51. AK47 says:

    Very good point Buck. Its those emergency calls that make me need to keep the F*****g thing turned on. Merry Xmas to you all.

  52. Anonymous says:

    Cat’s Eye says:
    December 22, 2017 at 8:54 am
    ‘Why do the Chinese call and not leave a message?’
    Because they are fucking idiots. Period.

  53. Anonymous says:

    Hahaha… Chinese telemarketeers heard a few FUCK OFFs from my phone, until I just stopped answering any bloody calls which were not from my contact list. AND… the fucking ridiculous ‘English’ is both hilarious and infuriating at the same time. Those fuckers could at least learn some proper ‘telemarketing English’ if they encounter a gweilo to sell their fucking bullshit.

    On another note, Merry Xmas everyone.

  54. Bugger this says:

    Call me dumb but I’m still trying to figure how they actually get our numbers? I don’t put it online or even use it often. Yet beauty salons keep calling asking me to have my nails and eyelashes done. If they offered to trim my beard I might consider.

  55. Zippo the wonder lighter says:

    Chinese telemarketeers, what a job huh? They work I think for fucking scum companies promising unemployed people a chance to make a few dollars. It all end’s in BS.

  56. knickerbockers says:

    Roll on 2018!

  57. Buck says:

    I was in a shop tonight. It was suddenly engulfed by mainlanders. They were pointing, shouting, looking dazed, like goldfish dropped in a new bowl. I had to leave. I went to the next shop. It was suddenly engulfed by mainlanders. They were pointing, shouting, looking dazed, like goldfish dropped in a new bowl. I had to leave. I went to the next shop. It was suddenly engulfed by mainlanders. They were pointing, shouting, looking dazed, like goldfish dropped in a new bowl. I had to leave. I went to the next shop……..

    More of the same shit coming our way in 2018.

  58. AK47 says:

    OK blasphemy I’ll read you cry! But Hong Kong is a great city. Its just not a challenging city. So it becomes a boring a city. Which leads to aggravation and stress. OK, the older generation the 45 – 50 – 65 year old’s seem to be the ones I relate to as a bunch of sour old bastards, pissed off with Brits dumping them into nothingness after 1997. But I still do love this “city”. I think the new younger generation are showing themselves to be quite cool, polite and educated folk. At least the majority I’ve come across. Again think about it, its the older bitter pre – 97 sods that make life here a lesser enjoyable experience. I don’t know, I’m no expert, but each and everyone to their own.
    PS: I don’t have kids.

  59. Anonymous says:

    AK47, it all depends of location, just leave from Central to Causeway Bay area and you will see retards of all ages. Sure the older generations are the worst but you kinda expect them to be (and understand) because they lived a rough life at their prime time, the ones more disgusting are the super spoiled and selfish in their 25s to 40’s while the younger generation is completely plain and hollow, have no interests, no critical thought, no conscious of any kind.

  60. Anonymous says:

    BTW op, theres a lot of new subjects to write about, sure their almost political but China rising intervention in HK is making our life even worst in this shit hole.

  61. Harry the magic Wombat says:

    Writing about China’s rising intervention in HK will achieve us jack shit.

  62. Anonymous says:

    why would anyone write a new subject? There are only between 3 and 6 people on this blog, Catseye the only woman, Buck and maybe as many as 4 other males. You should all meet

  63. Anonymous says:

    I’d be interested to read about how all your health is coping here, and if you have any survival tips. I’m not so young but I try as best as I can to take care of myself, I don’t smoke, drink within moderation, eat lots of veg, fruit and mostly fish, rarely red meat. I’m keep fairly fit by cycling, walking and boxing. But I seem to catch so many colds, sore throats, coughing and generally getting sick. I travel quite a lot, and I just don’t suffer anywhere a close as in HK. In fact I’ve so many times just returned from months away, and on return the very next few days I catch a cold, sore throat etc. Hong Kong is a minefield for me, I always wear masks on the mtr, and try to wash my hands after contact with anything I touch outside my home, but I just keep on getting hit. Doctors tell me I’m OK, just suffering from general bugs. This city is unhygienic to the max. This is seriously one of the major reasons I want out of this place.

  64. A little birdy says:

    To the anon commenter who posted on January 4, 2018 at 12:54 pm about recurring colds: I was having the same issues you’re facing — often/always sick with colds, sinus infections, etc. and a sore throat was my norm while I was in HK but all symptoms vanished when outside HK.

    In my case, the culprit turned out to be the incredibly high levels of particulate pollution (i.e. the stuff measured when people talk about PM 2.5 and PM 10) in the air here from (among other sources) electricity generation, Mainland factories, vehicles, household use of gas ranges and gas water heaters. The EPA standards for PM 2.5 are:

    PM2.5 (24-hr average): 35 μg/m
    PM2.5 (annual avg.): 15 μg/m3
    —————————————-
    PM10 (annual avg.): 50 μg/m3
    PM10 (24-hr avg.): 150 μg/m3

    Source: https://www3.epa.gov/region1/airquality/pm-aq-standards.html

    To get an idea of the background level of particulates in your area, you can check http://aqicn.org/city/hongkong/ to get the govt’s reported PM2.5 and PM10 levels, but keep in mind that those are from fixed detectors and the levels in your home or office or the stretch of sidewalk you’re jogging on might be different (likely higher). For Causeway Bay, that site is currently showing a PM2.5 of 120 and a range over the day of 44 μg/m3 to 135 μg/m3.

    The solution was simple. All windows at home and at the office are kept closed all of the time. I went out and bought air purifiers (big, waist-high ones from Philips) that had multiple filters including, crucially, a HEPA filter. I set some up at home and took one to my office and run them round the clock. Within days, the colds, sinus infections, etc. disappeared. Venturing out for a couple of hours, to run errands or going for a hike, will usually (unless it’s a rainy day) result in a sore throat and a stuffed-up nose but they vanish overnight after I’ve slept in the little artificial bubble of non-sooty air I’ve created at home.

  65. Buck says:

    That’s very good advice. And here’s a simple tip: break the hand to face cycle. Dont use your hand to touch your eyes, nose, or mouth. Look at the filthy fuckers around you, nose picking, coughing (and God only knows what they do in private. Imagine!), then touching elevator buttons and door handles etc. All that shit will pass to YOU unless you break the hand to face cycle. I always carry hand sanitizer too.

    The girls are filthy too. Make them brush and floss their teeth first, if you really must kiss them.

  66. Dystopian Chan says:

    wear a pair of glove when venturing outside. I am serious; I’ve seen some people doing it now.

  67. Turds 'R' Us says:

    Its so hard to not naturally touch your face without concentrating not to every second. Wearing gloves, OK good, but then the germs get on the gloves that then touch your face. I only see the use of masks as helpful. Remember the movie 28 days, or other movies like it? I’m thinking there’s a solid story here in HK for the likes of non-asian directors ( meaning so many naff virus asian movies have already been done). We had SARS? And the locals still just don’t get it? Tonight I felt like vomiting having in my line of vision some flip flop chinese fuck plucking out his infant chin stubble with tweezers, and flicking the hairs on the floor. It honestly happened tonight on a bus. Its in their DNA, god must have deliberately made them like?, mosquitoes? I can’t think of any precautions other than living elsewhere far far away from these dirty infectious parasites.

  68. Buck says:

    I worry about the food, and what’s in it. Even fresh fruit and vegetables. I don’t trust the HK Government to adequately screen all the food coming across the border. If those mainlanders can put industrial chemicals in infant milk powder, there’s no limit to how low they can go. And you can’t screen for everything. Who would have expected melamine in infant milk formula?

    Its not just the mainland supply. I’ve seen some huge Brazilian chickens.

    I’d like to go off the grid and grow my own food supply. One day.

  69. pigs in space says:

    I’d like to go off the grid period. How more ironic living in HK huh?

  70. Fuk Yu says:

    Air pollution, food contamination and industrial chemicals in infant powder?

    Why then does Hong Kong have longest life expectancy?

  71. Buck says:

    I also often wonder about that. Maybe the locals are immune? I sometimes see fish in the drains too.

    Mental health, however, is a whole different kettle of fish.

  72. Fuk Yu too. says:

    The answer could be: Maids, wheelchairs and hospitals. If granny or grandpa fart wrongly, an ambulance is called. Some turtles live for hundreds of year, because they move so fucking slowly and do virtually nothing but sleep all day. Or maybe its a cruel joke from the man upstairs? Who know, but you can stick it up your arse anyway.

  73. Like seriously wow? says:

    Doctor, honestly I’m OK, I just need to get out of here.

  74. Fuk Yu says:

    Like seriously wow? says:
    January 6, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    “Doctor, honestly I’m OK, I just need to get out of here.”

    You can’t leave. You are in a mental institution.

  75. Buck says:

    Following what I heard from a little birdy, I went and got a couple of those Philips multi filter purifiers (one for office and one for bedroom). They are nice and quiet.

    I can set up a bubble in my office and home. But what about going out? Based on the AQHI (specifically, PM) data, MK and CWB look like no-go zones.

  76. Anonymous says:

    try to minimize touching anything in public.

    when pushing a door open, raise your arm to the highest level to a spot no one would touch. grab a tissue paper before pulling open the door inside a bathroom

  77. like seriously wow? says:

    Try to leave Hong Kong.

  78. New subject says:

    How about china online merchandise fraud?

    Where’s the police or governments stopping this?

    Where’s the investigations and stoppage of online fraud websites with exact logo’s and name of major brands, that are fake setup websites from China and in some cases Turkey and USA?

    How come they can continue stealing from people for years using fake websites, and the genuine companies do nothing to stop them?

    Hmm come to think of it, ever wonder why so many flip flop bums from china are queuing outside Louis Vuitton, Chanel etc to buy? They look like scum and yet buying $ 100,000 bags? The picture doesn’t seem to fit the frame?

  79. Buck says:

    Anyone who buys LV is lacking in self-esteem (regardless of their socioeconomic status). That shit actually looks like shit, but they dare not admit that “the emperor has no clothes”.

    The flip flop bums outside LV are simply indicative of 1) the fact that China’s economic status has risen far more rapidly than the social graces of its people, and 2) mainlanders’ belief that their gutter status can take a “big leap forward” by clinging to western brands.

  80. Anonymous says:

    Yawn.

  81. Bill says:

    Or it could be that they are simply planet earth’s uncleaned scum.

  82. Anonymous says:

    Bill is spot on. Scum is synonym with Chinese.

    Yes anon., yawn your fucking arse off… while you can. One day your shit is going to catch up with you.

  83. Anonymous says:

    “AK47 says:
    January 2, 2018 at 7:35 pm
    OK blasphemy I’ll read you cry! But Hong Kong is a great city. Its just not a challenging city. So it becomes a boring a city. Which leads to aggravation and stress. OK, the older generation the 45 – 50 – 65 year old’s seem to be the ones I relate to as a bunch of sour old bastards, pissed off with Brits dumping them into nothingness after 1997. But I still do love this “city”. I think the new younger generation are showing themselves to be quite cool, polite and educated folk. At least the majority I’ve come across. Again think about it, its the older bitter pre – 97 sods that make life here a lesser enjoyable experience. I don’t know, I’m no expert, but each and everyone to their own.”

    Fuck me! It just sounds like you’re talking about Brexit, with the exception of 1997. The nothingness from the EU is pre 1997, I guess.

  84. Anonymous says:

    “Anonymous says:
    January 4, 2018 at 4:06 am
    why would anyone write a new subject? There are only between 3 and 6 people on this blog, Catseye the only woman, Buck and maybe as many as 4 other males. You should all meet”

    Yeah, and you should be proud of yourself for being so fucking shrewd. There’s no need for a new post, apart from a compilation of posts by shitheads like the above poster. The “disease” in Hong Kong starts from self-righteous fucking idiots like this one right there.

  85. Anonymous says:

    I find it weird that people use the name “Anonymous” to post. What do you think, you’re going to be caught and punished for being naughty?

  86. Anonymous says:

    Anonymous says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:48 am

    Fuck me! It just sounds like you’re talking about Brexit, with the exception of 1997. The nothingness from the EU is pre 1997, I guess.

    No wonder Anonymous yawned.

  87. #MeToo says:

    Yawn.

  88. Hurricane Hogwash says:

    Not so fast.

    “Serious multilateral negotiating experience is in short supply in Whitehall, and that is not the case in the [European] Commission or in the Council.”

    However:

    “In the U.S. the wave of populism has taken the form of the Republican Party. In Europe, it’s mostly through the growth of extremist parties.”

  89. Incognito says:

    “Anonymous says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:13 pm
    I find it weird that people use the name “Anonymous” to post. What do you think, you’re going to be caught and punished for being naughty?”

    YAWN…

  90. Anonymous says:

    Incognito says:
    January 20, 2018 at 6:54 am
    YAWN…

    Sounds like you live a very boring existence.

  91. Incognito says:

    … and sounds like you live a very cynical and hollow existence.

  92. Anonymous says:

    Yawn

  93. Buck says:

    I dont know why other cities can build on hills, but HK cant.

    Was today smoggy or what? Of all the problems I have with HK, I think the biggest one now is that I cant breathe in this city.

  94. Cat's Eye says:

    People live like rats in cages above ground and now they’ll be able to live with the rats underground. That’s fantastic news.

  95. Cat's Eye says:

    From New subject, “How about china online merchandise fraud?” That is an interesting topic.

    The Chinese have even tried to copy Ford trucks. It’s not flattery, but sheer greed and pathetic that instead of creating something new they resort to copying. I try not to think about the amount of fraud trying to mascarade as success. The legitimate companies, such as Ford and LV, do try and stop what’s going on, but for each one they shut down another one pops up. If the Chinese government doesn’t do anything then it will be impossible to halt the problem and the government becomes part of the problem.

    From Buck, “Anyone who buys LV is lacking in self-esteem (regardless of their socioeconomic status). That shit actually looks like shit, but they dare not admit that “the emperor has no clothes”.

    The flip flop bums outside LV are simply indicative of 1) the fact that China’s economic status has risen far more rapidly than the social graces of its people, and 2) mainlanders’ belief that their gutter status can take a “big leap forward” by clinging to western brands.”

    I don’t necessarily begrudge anyone who wants to buy a $30,000 LV handbag. However, the money the Chinese are using to buy that handbag is most likely from fraud they have perpetrated with their online scams and product copying.

    I think it’s silly to spend $30k or more on a handbag, but i’m sure someone else might think it ridiculous if I spent $800 on a handbag. It’s all relative. Some people choose to advertise/wear their supposed wealth and a lot of it does have to do with “self-esteem” issues.

    China’s “economic status” is a sham, a house of cards. If the country’s fraud could be fully exposed and then eradicated there wouldn’t be an economy. “Social graces” cannot exist if the country’s success is built upon a fraud.

  96. Ungeklärte Frage says:

    Cat’s Eye says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:47 am

    “If the Chinese government doesn’t do anything then it will be impossible to halt the problem and the government becomes part of the problem.”

    The Chinese government has always been part of the problem, so has the Chinese society as a whole (not only the recent People’s Republic of China, they’ve always thought themselves to be the centre of the universe for centuries). Swindling and scamming is and has been socially acceptable in China for decades, or centuries (more recently it includes the little sewage called Hong Kong – or “Fragrant Harbour” haha).

    “The flip flop bums outside LV are simply indicative of 1) the fact that China’s economic status has risen far more rapidly than the social graces of its people, and 2) mainlanders’ belief that their gutter status can take a “big leap forward” by clinging to western brands.””

    Money… sweet money. According to the Chinese apes and rats with deep pockets rule the world (so it is true for other cultures to a certain extent, but in China it is endemic).

    “I think it’s silly to spend $30k or more on a handbag, but i’m sure someone else might think it ridiculous if I spent $800 on a handbag. It’s all relative. Some people choose to advertise/wear their supposed wealth and a lot of it does have to do with “self-esteem” issues.”

    So do I, and a handful of sensible people. But when you’re talking apes, or rats, then sense means farting, burping, spitting, shitting and pissing in public then walking back to a brand new Bugatti Veyron. It’s more than just self-esteem issues, it’s profound mental health issues.

    ““Social graces” cannot exist if the country’s success is built upon a fraud.”

    Trouble with the world we live in is that it, instead of exposing this scandal and working towards eradicating it, is in fact celebrating and dancing around this “economic miracle” like a bunch of flies on a pile of turds. Money, sweet money. Let us all join the bacchanal and the prostitution… Hail Hong Kong! Hail China! *puke*

  97. Ungeklärte Frage says:

    “Anonymous says:
    January 21, 2018 at 12:35 am
    Yawn”

    It’s ironic that I’m pretty sure we’ve met many times on this blog before. You with your gay intro, then your sore thumb gibberish, your ridiculous canton friends (“fuck back”, “white trash”, etc), then finally your (boring) fake collection of Chinese pussies (which got your handle banned hahahaha) are still lurking around like a zombie. G Suck, get a life my friend, your love of the sewers is admirable, but having to get another IP to keep on posting here like an idiot under “Anon” is just pathetic. I have always been Anon. because I choose to and don’t need a handle. You stupid thought that I was the only one posting… haha. Anyway, it has been fun to see you making an absolute cunt of yourself. Leck mich im arsch idioten, Hast du nichts anderes zu tun? Yes, dick, I am Germanic. Tschüss.

  98. Dystopian Chan says:

    Cat’s Eye says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:24 am

    “People live like rats in cages above ground and now they’ll be able to live with the rats underground. That’s fantastic news.”

    There were cage homes, and then there were coffin homes. Now we have cave homes!

    What will they come up next? tree homes?

  99. Anonymous says:

    I’m on the same page as Buck. I feel I can’t breath properly here too.

  100. Chairman Mao says:

    Cultural Revolution will begin very shortly in Hong Kong. Students will start physically abusing their teachers!

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

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